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How did the A-League vote?


Prime Minister Scott Morrison heads a soccer ball at Manson Park in Bellevue Heights near Adelaide, Tuesday, April 23, 2019. (AAP Image/Mick Tsikas)

So the election has been run and won.  Some football fans either will feel gutted that their team, which was the favourite, made the opportunity to win slip away, while others will be elated that their team won despite all the pundits were predicting otherwise.

But if we look at the A-League how the electoral pattern looks?  Here is a totally unscientific analysis.  I am a card carrying lefty and yes, my biases will show in this post (What the heck, this is my blog, I am no journalist and I am not getting paid for this.)

I will be going from north to south following the coast.

Brisbane Roar

Brisbane Roar represents the whole metropolitan area of Brisbane.  Let’s start with Suncorp Stadium which is in the seat of Brisbane.  This must be the only seat representing a city centre which is not left, being held by Trevor Evans by the Liberals.  The ALP which got a small swing of less than 1%.

Lilley was a disaster for the ALP with a primary swing against it of -7.73%.  Not sure whether this seat, which was held by the now retired Wayne Swan will be retained by Labor.  Despite GetUp Dutton held Dickson easily (in fact got a sizeable swing towards him)

Fortunately one of my favourite MPs, Terri Butler held Griffith comfortably. If I had to move to Brisbane I want to live in Bulimba.

Ryan was also retained by the ALP comfortably.  While Moreton has a 2% swing against the ALP, but it was retained by Labor.

The map below shows the swings.  Red towards the ALP and Blue towards the Coalition.

From Nathan Ruser @Nrg8000

Newcastle Jets

The seat of Newcastle remained rock solid ALP where 64% 2PP went to Labor.  Paterson had a strong swing against the ALP of more than 5% (I suspect on UAP preferences) but was able to retain it.  Big swing against the ALP in Shortland as well (again here UAP polled about 4% that would have helped the Coalition, but retained by the ALP.

The unmitigated disaster for the Labor Party was Hunter, the seat held by Joel Fitzgibbon. The ALP had a 2PP -9.71% swing against it and the One Nation had a whopping +21.66 swing towards it with the candidate, Stuart Bond, looking like an MMA fighter.r0_0_2223_1381_w1200_h678_fmax

Central Coast Mariners

Gosford is in the seat of Robertson.  The Liberals retained this seat comfortably with a swing towards it of 3.35%

Sydney FC

Again Sydney is a big place.  So we can start where the Sydney FC offices and Allianz Stadium are in Moore Park which is in the seat of Wentworth.   This of course was Malcolm Turnbull’s seat that was won by the independent Kerryn Phelphs in a by-election but now won back by the Liberals with Dave Sharma.

Apart from that inner Sydney has remained ALP as expected. Sydney, Grayndler (Albo’s seat) stayed with the ALP.  While North Sydney stayed Liberal.  The big shock was Warringah where Tony Abbott lost to the independent Zali Steggall.

Western Sydney Wanderers

Western Sydney has been seen for some time as the place where the elections get won and lost.  Where the battlers are (now called quiet Australians apparently).

In the seat where the stadium is, Parramatta, The ALP retained the seat albeit with a 2PP swing against it of -4.22%.

Then I get into trouble to identify where  ‘Western Sydney; starts or finish.  Mitchell was retained by the Liberals easily. Blaxland stayed Labor.  McMahon held by Chris Bowen stayed Labor but had a substantial swing away of -5.51%.  Disconcertingly One Nation got a swing towards it of 8.22%

Macarthur FC

It is difficult to pinpoint the catchment area of these new teams.  When I hear its proponents it seems to be a bit of a moveable feast.  The new A League team of Macarthur FC is based in Campbelltown which is in the seat of …surprise! Macarthur which was retained by Labor.  Werriwa to the north was also retained by the ALP, while Hume and Hughes by the Liberals. Cunningham stayed with Labor.

Cook, well, of course, is our Prime Minister’s seat.


The story of this election, especially in Sydney is even the wealthy north Sydney suburb swung to the ALP, while the west and the far south to the Coalition.

Sydney2019From Nathan Ruser @Nrg8000

Melbourne Victory

Again Melbourne is a big place.  But if we take AAMI Park and Marvel Stadium as a base it is the City of Melbourne which is in the seat of Melbourne which was easily retained by Adam Bandt of the Greens.

Melbourne City

Melbourne City is based in the northern suburb of Bundoora which is split into three seats, Cooper, Jagajaga and Scullin. All three comfortably retained by the ALP.

Western United

This new team in the A-League has been dubbed ‘Tarneit United’ because of its plans to build a new stadium in what is now an empty paddock in Tarneit west of Melbourne.

Tarneit is in Lalor, a safe Labor seat.  Although this time it got a 2PP -1.89% against it, probably because Clive Palmer’s UAP got +4.71.

Western United sees its footprint all alongside the west of Melbourne, from the sea to the mountains.  It’s a pretty big area.


Gorton is another safe Labor seat but also got a swing against it of 2PP -3.13% But the primaries for the sitting member Brendan O’Connor crashed to a -11.25% again probably because votes went to Clive again (+7.72%) and the independent Jarrod Bingham who got a big swing of +9.47 who is a catcher and relocator of local snakes.  Corio is also a safe seat and got a small swing towards it. Similar for Ballarat.  Corangamite was one of the most marginal seats in Australia and was one of the few (if any?) Labor gains, although it will remain extremely marginal.

One feature of safe ALP seats like Lalor, Gorton and Corio is that Clive Palmer’s UAP party got substantial swings between 4 to 5%, what’s happening there!

In any case, Melbourne has remained fairly Labor which at least was a bit of a consolation for me after the elections’ result.

MelbourneElections2019From Nathan Ruser @Nrg8000

Adelaide United

Cooper Stadium is commonly known as Hindmarsh Stadium because of its location and is located in the seat of Adelaide which was easily retained by Labor, but the Greens got a significant primary swing of more than 5%.

Hindmarsh stayed with the ALP. Sturt remained Liberal, Making stayed ALP.  Boothby stayed Liberal but with its redistribution which gained Glenelg probably got more left votes as it swung to the ALP and Greens.

Overall it seems that Adelaide maintained pretty much the status quo.  There swings to the ALP in seats it already held.

From Nathan Ruser @Nrg8000

Perth Glory

HBF Park is situated in the seat of Perth which is a safe ALP seat.  But overall Perth again shows some traditional Liberal strongholds swinging towards Labor, but not enough to make a difference.

Curtin got a big 2PP swing to the ALP of +5.51% but it remains a safe Liberal seat.  This could be because the Julie Bishop wasn’t running and the voters for the independent Louise Stewart must have given their preferences mainly to Labor.

Stirling remains Liberal, as did Swan (pity that Beazley’s daughter, where her father used to hold this seat hardly made any shift) I am personally pleased that Anne Aly retained Cowan for the ALP, considering all the crap islamophobes threw at her in the past three years.  But is a bit of a bittersweet result as while her 2PP went down by only -0.14%  the islamophobic One Nation primary vote went up by not an insignificant +5.54%


From Nathan Ruser @Nrg8000


Not all areas are represented in this football democracy

One thing that comes out of this analysis is that big important area like Wollongong, Northern Queensland, Tasmania, and of course where our parliament is located, Canberra are not represented. But that is another story.


Canberra United logo by Michael Taylor


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We Need to Talk About the A-League

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We all heard of Samantha Kerr but I suspect not many of us football fans may have heard of Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr who stated the famous epigram: “plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose” which translate to “the more things change, the more they stay the same”. If there is one statement characterising what has happened with the FFA in the last few weeks that would pretty much encapsulate it.

Fans that started following football after the advent to the A-League, or after Australia finally started to qualify for the World Cup may be bewildered by what Richard Hinds describes as the ‘Byzantine politics and questionable decision making’ of the FFA.  Some older fans just nod and mumble ‘we know…we know” as we remember the days of Labozzetta and Knopp in the old Soccer Australia.

Football in Australia is in a unique position.  Everyone can see that it is THE global sport but it is not the most popular here.  This creates its own tensions.  There has been a spate of reports about how to deal with this problem child and unleash its potential.

My opinion is that this unique position is what has been hampering its progress for some time.  So if I was going to produce the ‘Tresoldi inquiry into Australian Association Football’ what it would contain?

Institute a reconciliation process

Two very interesting books have come out recently about the history of Association Football in Australia. One was ‘The game that never happened’ by Ian Syson, which detail the struggles soccer had to go through to establish itself as a code in the country against others such as Rugby and Australian Rules.  The other one  was Joe Gorman’s ‘The death and live of Australian Soccer which has a section that deals with the tensions that were created when an influx of migrants came to Australia and in many cases revived soccer but also replaced the predominantly anglo/celtic culture that existed before.

I believe that these tensions, that hark back decades haven’t been resolved, and that football will not progress smoothly until they are.

There are different groups who are discussing how football is located in the Australian sport environment.

Different groups have manoeuvred themselves over the years to grasp control of the sport disregarding others.  The question is, can Australian soccer row the boat together in the same direction?

When I was supporting Carlton SC in the NSL I noticed that there was a hostile attitude from some fans of clubs that originated from NESB  backgrounds.  They saw a club like Carlton as a Trojan horse from the ‘anti-ethnic’ people in Soccer Australia to push their agenda and rejoiced when Carlton disappeared.

In an open system, we need to resolve these scars.  They should not be dismissed, because years of excluding teams which have been created by people who live and breathe football just because they didn’t fit a mainstream ‘Australian’ ideal is hurtful.  But at the same time having this unresolved issue could be toxic in a future open competition.  All football supporters, whether they support a team which was formed with the creation of the A-League, or one built up form the 50’s by European migrants, need to respect each others’ teams and acknowledge their right to play and exist in a new football structure. While the FFA has to openly declare that any lingering ‘old soccer new football’ dictum has to be abandoned and stamped out forever.

Use the ‘Bluestone Lane’ model, not try to be Starbucks

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In 2010 ex-AFL footballer Nick Stone moved to New York to work for ANZ.  He noticed that there were no ‘Melbourne style’ cafes.  Cafes that offered the type of coffee we are used in Australia.  He saw a gap in the cafes market. He started ‘Bluestone Lane’ where instead of percolated coffee they served things like piccolo lattes to skinny flat whites together with things like avocado smash – mashed with a touch of feta, and topped with an optional poached egg.

The venture started with one small café in Manhattan in 2013 became a success opening more cafes in New York but also across the USA.

What we see here is that Bluestone Lane has captured a niche that while not as big as the Starbuck at every corner in every USA city is unique, and has been successful.

That could be a model for the A-League.  We don’t need to be the Starbucks of the football codes like the AFL.  We can be the Bluestone Lane, smaller, but successful and offering a product that no one else can offer.  Trying to match the big boys will always be a losing battle in Australia.  Football needs to create its own market space where others would find it difficult to occupy. So how can we do that?

Revisit the PFA’s “5 Pillars” Strategy

Football in Australia has unique advantages that should be utilised.  Back in the dark days of 2002, the PFA put forward a proposal for a new competition called the “Australian Premier League’.  That was made redundant by the advent of the A-League, but there is stuff in there that is relevant today.  One is the ‘5 pillars strategy’ which involves:

  • Quality
  • Atmosphere
  • Community
  • Local brands
  • Visibility

I’ll leave whether the A-League has reached a level of quality to those who are more experts in football than me.  You can only do so much in a very competitive world football environment.  On the issues of atmosphere, community, local brands and visibility are how football in Australia can strategically use its advantages.  While the advent of the A-League has somewhat superceded some of the arguments put forward in the PFA document, some still hold true.  The issue of boutique stadium is currently being raised when it is noticed how much more atmosphere is created when Sydney plays in a venue like Leichhardt Oval.

“It’s promotion and relegation, Jim, but not as we know it”

The big chestnut of Australian football has been the prospect of promotion and relegation in the A-League.

I was unconvinced that it could work in Australia.  But reading arguments for it changed my mind.  The argument that football is after all a pyramid and all the football family should be connected echoes my beliefs in equality and non-discrimination.  But also I came to the conclusion that the only way Australia can reproduce the types of environments which are present in football nations, where kids are introduced to football early is through community teams, and the way these players can achieve is if smaller teams are connected to the top tier.  After all many players from the ‘golden generation’ came from so-called ‘ethnic teams’. That was probably because the culture they grew up in was totally football, like in the country their heritage came from.

However, I do believe that the European model of straight up and down promotion and relegation may not be the most appropriate for Australia for a number of reasons.

The most important one is that we would have to shift from a closed model to an open one, and this needs to be done carefully and gradually.  In many leagues in Europe the promotion and relegation system was established when teams were more or less on a level playing field.  In Australia we have A-League teams which are fully professional and have lots of resources and NPL teams which are semi-professional and don’t have anything like the means of the top tier. That is why there needs to be a process where a promotion and relegation system is more equal.

Advocates of promotion and relegation often mention ‘global standard’ but this standard seems to be achieved by different methods across the world.

The Argentinian model

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One example that Australia could look at is Argentina.  They have a system called Promedios based on the performance over a number of seasons.  Clubs can avoid relegation by having a high coefficient which is calculated by dividing the points achieved in the last four seasons by the number of matches played in the same period.  Teams with the lowest points coefficient at the end of the season are relegated.

Adopting a modified system based on this would be as a way of introducing promotion and relegation in Australia that would initially protect the A-League teams from immediate relegation while still giving the lower teams a shot at it.

Another option, which would be a bit radical is to adopt an ‘Apertura and Clausura’ system.

The A-Aleague and a second division (which would also be subjected to straight promotion and relegation to a lower league) would play each other home and away. At the end the top six teams would play in a final round to eventually reach a grand final.  The bottom six (or whatever) teams would play in playoff rounds with the top 4 teams of the NPL, replacing the current NPL final series.  At the end the top six teams will remain in the A-League and the bottom 4 will remain or be relegated to an NPL.

Going forward

These are some ideas. I am sure there will be better and more experienced heads that can devise a promotion and relegation system that suits the geographical expanse of Australia, the delicate transition from a closed to an open system and having a pyramid that is stable and not prone to topple over.  But as stated before I think we have arrived at a juncture where the benefits an open system in football in Australia will outweigh the risks.

To paraphrase JFK “We choose to have promotion and relegation in Australia not because it is easy, but because it is hard…..because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win…”


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Confessions of a Twitter fence sitter

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I usually managed to stay away from twitter stouches.  I am often tempted but the couple of times that I tried to go in hard I came out battered.  I am really bad at twitter wars.

But sometimes being let’s say a bit wishy-washy has not inoculated me from criticism that on twitter I am a fence sitter.  A bit of a ‘run with the hare and hunt with the hounds’ sort of guy.

I sometimes (but rarely get these tweets) like I got one today.

“Guido you sit on so many fences on so many issues I’m surprised your backside isn’t full of splinters.”

How do I react to that?  Well…he’s right and wrong….;)  Just kidding.  But yes.  There can be the impression from Twitter that I may look like someone who agree with both sides.  This impression can be derived from various factors.  Primarily is Twitter itself in the way it is structured tends to disadvantage positions that are not black and white.  Also it is a very bad vehicle to make rational arguments.

The Stajcic sacking – a good example

The tweet above came from the shitstorm that has occurred on SokkahTwitter about the Stajcic sacking.  My position is that:

  • The FFA has fucked up this in a big way
  • If I have to choose between a conspiracy and a stuff up I go for the stuff up every time.

Now this has proven to some people that I don’t take a position on twitter either way.  That’s true. While I think that the FFA handled the Stajcic issue extremely badly I also think that this issue has been used as a vehicle for those that state that EVERYTHING THAT THE FFA IS BAD. Which for me is not a logical position.  The FFA does things badly, and I have said that before and deserve criticism but the fact that it is responsible for every single thing that is bad in Australian football is something I can’t agree with.  What I see is that there is a number of people who are against the FFA, or an axe to grind against them for a variety of reasons that are using this as a great opportunity to give the FFA another kick.  And any journalist who may have the temerity of saying that we may need the whole picture (or even a humble tweeter like yours truly) is immediately labelled as an “FFA stooge”.

The other thing that -at this stage- I don’t agree with is that there is a ‘feminist plot’ to install a female Matildas coach.  I haven’t seen any proof of it and the fact that this was the case apart from some hearsay reported in the media.  This image has been put up on social media as the ‘smoking gun’ but to me it doesn’t prove anything.


Again any attempt to question this AS A CERTAINTY is seen as being an FFA acolyte.  And the fact that we may not be able to discount this fact entirely (because we can’t) then may be seen as ‘sitting on the fence’.


I couldn’t fit the ‘retweets are not endorsements’ in my twitter bio.  But I retweet everything (as long as not racist, xenophobic, misogynist, libellous etc.) even stuff that I disagree with because I think twitter is a great way to exchange ideas.  Again on the Stajcic issue I not only retweeted this controversial Bonita Mersiades article but I paraphrased it by including the twitter handles of the people she was criticising, even if I didn’t agree with it and I agreed more with Lucy Zelic.

Well … if that is fence sitting….guilty as charged!

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Time for football fans to embrace the “S” word.

Words are powerful, and they can carry a lot of emotional impact. Words have meaning, what a word when is used to intend, express or signify? What that word represent, or to stand for? When it is used, what does it refer to? These questions may seem esoteric. They are fundamental to the Philosophy of Language Philosophy of Language but we use these parameters every day unconsciously.

Arguably, one of the most powerful words among the Association Football followers is the word ‘Soccer’.


This is an issue in countries such as Australia and the USA where the term ‘football’ is being used for other codes such as gridiron and Australian Rules.

I can’t say when this became an issue. My recollection is that this started around the time when the Crawford Report came out and Association Football pushed the reboot button. I think also that Johnny Warren advocated for this change.

The term was invented in English public schools [1] and it is thought that it was an abbreviation of ‘Association’ as in the early days of codification of the game it was described as “Association Football” So ‘Association’ –> ‘Assoc.’ –> ‘Soccer’.

So at that stage, the word ‘soccer’ had no particular emotional loading. In countries such as New Zealand, Australia, and the United States other codes had usurped the name “football”. In Australia, the situation was similar, with both rugby and Australian rules laying claim to the name. In the United States, it was gridiron.

The word ‘soccer’ can be seen as a template example when an innocuous word becomes emotionally loaded. From being simply a way to differentiate a different code of football, it became (or was perceived to be) a way to marginalise the sport in these countries. I remember reading a letter in The Age when the Football Federation of Australia was formed. The Age at that stage decided to call the round ball code in Australia ‘football’ (something now they have abandoned, calling it soccer again) and one AFL supporters wrote a letter protesting that football should be the preserve of Aussie Rules writing: “remember that whatever you want to call your sport you will always be soccer in this country”.

This was the type of opinion that riled Association Football supporters. The word ‘soccer’ was being used to put the code in its place, and that place was a subservient one to Australian Rules and Rugby League. Added to this was that in most parts of the world the term of the round code is ‘football’, why should Australia be any different? Many Association Football supporters felt that if anything Aussie Rules and Rugby League appropriated something that wasn’t theirs.


U/reddripper. (2015, January 26). Football vs Soccer [Map showing use of ‘football’ vs ‘soccer’]. Retrieved November 4, 2018, from

The word became weaponised when the A-League started with the slogan “Old soccer New football” to signify a new era in the sport in Australia. And the successor of Soccer Australia became the Football Federation of Australia.

The football vs soccer debate is still going on. Inevitably if a journalist or even someone writing in social media using soccer will get a rebuke about being football.

My argument is, what about if we use ‘soccer’ powerfully?

Wanting to use ‘football’ instead of ‘soccer’ perpetuates disempowerment

For me, the insistence of using football instead of soccer perpetuates the sense of inferiority that Association Football fans have, instead of overcoming it.

As long as we get irritated by a soccerphobe using ‘soccer’, the soccerphobe has the power over Association football fans to rile us. By wanting to eliminate the word soccer we have unwittingly given a weapon to soccerphobe against us.

It is a bit like in the playground. How does a school bully know how to upset their victims? They hone into something they know its powerful. It can be assured that is a bully’s victims asks “Stop calling me fat!” the bully will call the victim fat as much as they can.

By wanting soccer not being used we have given that word a lot of power, a power that really it’s not warranted.

Wanting to use ‘football’ instead of ‘soccer’ perpetuates disempowerment

Let’s embrace ‘soccer’

So let’s flip this over. Let’s be proud of the term soccer for Association Football. Don’t allow the anti-soccer people have power by using this word.

Something similar has happened before. For instance, the word wog has now being used by wogs themselves and lost lots of its power as a weapon to offend. Look for instance ‘Wogs out of work’ or ‘Wogboy’ or ‘Superwog’.


On a more serious note the word ‘queer’ originally a term used in a derogatory sense by homophobes has now being embraced by some in the LGBTIQ community (that is what the Q stands in the acronym) and has completely changed the meaning. It can be described as a broad umbrella term for anyone who may identify as being either gender, sexually and/or bodily diverse. [2] A word that was used as a weapon against the LGBTIQ community now is used to describe themselves.

So while some football…ehm soccer supporters rile against the S word, I think we should embrace it. By acknowledging it, make it our own we will strip it from any negative connotation and the soccerphobes will lose it as a weapon.

Soccer is ours and refers uniquely to our game. Let the other codes share the word football by themselves.


[1]  Syson, I. (2011). Actually Mate, It’s Soccer. [online] The Footy Almanac. Available at: [Accessed 4 Nov. 2018].

[2]  University of Queensland Student Union (2014) What does LGBTIQ mean?Available at: [Accessed: 4 November 2018].


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Ethnic Diversity in Australian Rules and Association Football in Australia

The issue of cultural diversity in the two codes of Australian Rules Football (which I will abbreviate as ARF) and Association Football (which I will abbreviate as AF) has re-surfaced in the social media in Australia.

The reason is this statement by Ray Williams that “no other sport celebrates multiculturalism as the AFL”

This has inevitably raised heckles from fans of AF which see ARF, but especially the Australian Football League (AFL) as a very anglo/celtic centric sport, and that they have decided to hop on the ‘multiculturalism’ bandwagon late in the piece as they realised they needed to attract Non English Speaking Background fans (NESB) to expand.  This is particularly true for an area which has a high proportion of   NESB such as in Western Sydney.  They see that ARF and the AFL really didn’t care about NESBs and in fact they were hostile to them, and that they got interested only when they saw a financial opportunity.

As someone who has followed Carlton in the VFL and then the AFL I think this observation is not particularly true.  I remember plenty of NESB players in my team:  Alex Jesaulenko, Val Perovic, Mario Bortolotto, Peter Bosustow, Spiro Kourkoumelis, Frank Marchesani, Stephen Silvagni,  Peter Sartori, Anthony Koutoufides. And from other teams such as Steven Alessio at Essendon, Peter Daicos at Collingwood, Robert DiPierdomenico at Hawthorn.

The issue is that at that time the fact that a player was a migrant, a refugee or had parents who were wasn’t celebrated.  In fact playing ARF was a confirmation that these players were integrated in the broader Australian society by playing the ‘Australian game’

Jock: A marvelous high mark you took last Saturday. You just seemed to go up and up!

Geoff Hayward: Yeah, i felt like Achilles

Jock: Yes…


Jock: … Who’s he?

Geoff Hayward: A Greek guy who could really jump

Jock: Ah, yeah yeah. Well some of these new Australians, you know they could be real champions, if they forget about soccer and just learn to assimilate.

From ‘The Club’ by David Williamson

This was the antithesis of AF (or soccer) where there were factors at play.  Mainly that AF was a ‘foreign’ game, something which (unlike ARF) wasn’t Australian, was played mainly overseas and therefore by this any NESB person who chose to play it, or follow it made a statement that he or she was not ‘integrating’ in the mainstream Australian society (at least in the states where ARF was the main code).

Two models of multiculturalism – mosaic or melting pot?

Often sport is a catalyst to see more clearly the undercurrents in society, and AF has been a very revealing one in Australia.

Sociologist and other researchers have examined how different cultures who are minorities handle their situation among a majority mainstream culture.

Initially the go was assimilation.  Then after the progressive movements in the 1960s the concept of  “multiculturalism” arose in the 1970s, and was proclaimed first as an official government policy in Canada when Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau promoted it as his official political doctrine for a nation containing English speaking and French speaking groups, the Native Canadians nations and more recent migrants. [1]

But a clear definition of what it means it still elusive.  For some it is still a form of assimilation.  By any means acknowledge the cultural background, and it’s great when it is within an ‘acceptable’ boundary (food and music yes, wearing a hijab..not so much). This is still the concept of the ‘melting pot’ advocated in the USA before the 1960s, but still one that many feel confortable.

The other is the mosaic model where distinct cultures co-exist in the same space and can have a common purpose but also different identities. [2]

So when the AFL extorts the values of multiculturalism it is really more of the melting pot model.  Players and fans may come from different cultures, but with ARF they are all in the mix together, any expression of players’ individual heritage is sacrificed in the ideal of a common Australian pursuit.  This can be clearly seen by the twitter hashtag the @afldiversity account uses:  

While AF, by its very nature it has developed a mosaic model.  Fans from different countries and cultures have created teams which are a direct representation of them.  Fans and teams express their particular heritage openly.

This latter form of cultural diversity sits uneasily with the orthodox view of multiculturalism in the Australian mainstream, where it is often a way of ameliorating a soft version of assimilation.

This is why Soccer Australia and more recently Football Federation of Australia has stamped on any individual national or ethnic identity of teams and created a league devoid of any link to any particular group or culture to replicate the AFL model.

Is Australia ready for a mosaic Association Football league?

Soccer Australia under the leadership of David Hill and now with the FFA have tried to turn football cultural model as mosaic multiculturalism to a melting pot model like the AFL.  Hill banned teams having ‘ethnic’ names, while the FFA instituted the National Club Identity Policy.

The problem with this is that changing the culture of AF from one form of multiculturalism to another is like unscrambling an egg.  The modus operandi of these two codes is totally different.   The question is whether the gains administrators of the game think they are getting by allowing multiculturalism, as long as it is not identifiable from a particular group is greater than allowing teams to express their background.

Towards a unique mosaic model

When I was following the NSL I followed Carlton SC.  I could sense that there was plenty of anger towards Carlton from some fans of the more established teams such as South Melbourne and Melbourne Knights.  Now I see why that was.  They saw the introduction of teams like Carlton as intruders trying to ‘de-ethnicise’ the game, and I can see why these supporters were so glad when Carlton fell apart.  I also can see that anger now directed towards the A-League as a whole.

I also think that Australia has moved on since those days.  Despite multiculturalism being under attack from many sources, including the government, I believe that a re-introduction of traditional teams with freedom to express their background will not mean a massive exodus of supporters.  I also think that it would not label the sport as a ‘wog ball’ as it did maybe 20 years ago.  And even if it did, do we want supporters who refuse to watch the game just because a team may have been created by a NESB group?

On the other hand I also hope that if traditional teams are re-admitted in the top tier of AF in Australia their fans will accept the teams that were formed  when the A-league was created as legitimate and leave the ‘franchise plastic teams’ barbs behind.

After all we are all here to further the game of Association Football in this country.  We can do it our way.  But we need to do it together.


[1] Multiculturalism (Multiculturality) / Translated by Jon Cho-Polizzi | TRANSIT

[2] Kallen, E. (1982). Multiculturalism: Ideology, policy and reality. Journal of Canadian Studies17(1), 51-63.

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Promotion and relegation in Australian Association Football – how could it work?

promrelmaths1There has been plenty of discussion about the idea of promotion and relegation in the A-League in the media and social media.

In the latter, there have been  – let’s just say – quite forthright exponents of this idea, creating in some cases quite heated debate.

Is relegation and promotion realistic for football in Australia

My position is that is a good idea on principle.  It would involve more players, therefore allowing more talent to come through, it would also involve more fans as the whole football community would be tied in one system. It would inject new teams in all levels refreshing the competitions every season.

However it can’t be denied that a promotion relegation system would encounter difficulties in Australia.  It doesn’t have a large population, and football is not the main sport therefore with all the implications of how much money is available to go around.  It is also huge geographically thus having around 40 teams criss-crossing the country could be very expensive.

However perhaps we could paraphrase JF Kennedy when he decided to send humans to the moon…“We choose to introduce promotion and relegation, not because it is easy, but because it is hard.”

How would teams move up or down?

One thing that I haven’t read much about is how actually the mechanics of a promotion and relegation system could actually work in Australia.  We read plenty that it would be a good idea, but how it could actually happen?

One of the main advocates of promotion and relegation in Australia, the Association of Australian Football Clubs.  In their document outlining their proposal for a second division (which they call the ‘Championship) there is a section which describe how the competition will be structured but I couldn’t discern how teams would move up or down divisions.  Much clearer is an article written by its head, Rabieh Krayem in an article written back in 2016, where he proposes:

  • A Second Division comprised of 20 NPL clubs with at least one from each state and territory and at least five of them be from regional Australia that aspire to something bigger and better as long as they meet specific criteria.
  • At the end of season 1, the top two placed teams are promoted to the A-League. No relegation takes place – just promotion.  This would expand the A-League by merit.
  • At the end of season 2, the same thing happens – but this time only the top team advances to the A-League.
  • This continues until the end of the fifth season at which time there are 16 teams in the A-League.
  • In the meantime, the Second Division would not have teams replaced until season 4 to ensure that it also has 16 teams by the end of year 5.
  • The existing NPL competition could continue as it is, as a de facto Third Division, with the two grand finalists then earning promotion to Second Division after the fifth season.
  • From season 6, full promotion and relegation can be introduced across the A-League, the B-League and the national NPL competition.

Another proposal was done back in 2014 by the famous SokkahTwitter figure ECP  In this proposal the second division would be divided in two conferences:

North Conference
5 x Sydney
2 x ACT
1 Wollongong
1 x Newcastle
2 x Brisbane
1 x North Queensland
1 x Sunshine Coast
1 x Gold Coast
NB-Possible inclusion of Northern Territory or NNSW sides if interest there

South Conference
7 x Victoria
4 x South Australia
2 x Western Australia
1 x Tasmania

Similar to the Krayem model, there would be no relegation from the A-League for at least 6 years in order to increase the size of the A-League to at least to a 16 teams from the North/South conference Champions

The bottom two teams in the North and South conferences would play off against their respective State or Territory Champions. For e.g. a Victorian side can only be replaced by Victorian champion and so on.

One thing I haven’t understood from this proposal is whether this system would reward NPL teams just because a second division bottom team comes from one state.  So let’s say the bottom second division team is South Australian.  Would only the NPL South Australia champion team has then the chance to be promoted while the others miss out?

Nevertheless the conference idea is worthwhile especially in Australia where the geographic distances are substantial.  How promotion and relegation occurs with conferences still remains problematic for me though.  Let’s say the top teams from each conference are promoted.  But the two bottom team from the division above come from an area where they would be assigned to one conference only, that would mean that one conference would receive 2 relegated teams and the other conference none.  So how the discrepancy of teams between the two conferences be resolved?

A different landscape

A major change since those proposals for promotion and relegation from Rabieh Krayem and ECP were written, is that the FFA has gone ahead with an expansion of the A-League.

This may mean that more teams are in the mix and that the idea of having a natural expansion of the A-League through promotion is not as clear cut.

However there have been considerable interest from new teams wanting to join the A-League, and considering that only 2 will be chosen, a second division with the prospect of being promoted to the A-League could be a viable alternative for some of these bids.

So what could work?

I think that the Krayem model could work, but the second division would be created by bids which were not accepted to join the A-League and any other NPL team who is interested and viable to join to reach 18 or 20 teams.

The process of promotion without relegation could proceed as suggested until the A-League reaches 16 teams.

And finally from season 6, full promotion and relegation can be introduced across the A-League, the B-League and the national NPL competition as initially suggested.  Maybe with a mix of straight promotion and relegation for bottom teams and playoffs for second or third top/bottom teams.

Of course there are factor at play, whether the teams are financially viable being a major one.  Implementing relegation and promotion in Australia won’t be easy.  But it is worth a try.  It will refresh the competition, keep the interest throughout the season and hopefully give more opportunities for more players.

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Football national team has become maistream, but how to take the next step?

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Australia national football team has now become mainstream and does capture the nation.  But it now needs to take the next step.

The day was the 16 of May 1981.  I think that was my first memory of a Socceroo heartache.  Australia was playing New Zealand to progress in the World Cup qualification for Spain 1982.  With other teams like Taiwan, Fiji and Indonesia in the group it was clear that to be on top and proceed to the next round it was between Australia and New Zelaland, and I expected that Australia would be on top.

But as inevitably we would experience in world qualifications until 2005, Australia unexpectedly lost 2-0.  Not only the world cup campaign finished even before it started, the coach Rudi Gutendorf resigned leaving the rest of the campaign in disarray.


Apart for the result, what is notable about that match is the number of spectators in Sydney, 12,000.

From what I can remember of those days hardly anyone knew that there was a qualifier on.  No front pages articles asking for this or that other player.  You would get a small article in the bottom of the back page – if lucky.  Like this Canberra Times piece published the day after the match.


In those days football fans wanted firstly to reach the World Cup finals, but also to be respected and recognised in Australian sport.

Fast forward to 2018 and we have achieved those objectives.  We have reached World Cup finals and the Socceroos are one of the most prominent national teams in Australia.

That is why, remembering how in the past very few people outside football fans knew of the National team, let alone who was playing in it, I don’t mind people who watch the matches only every four years calling for Cahill’s inclusion.

Have we reached the next level in expectation?

One aspect of getting old is that I can see that attitudes change. Generally speaking my peers (I am 57) I think still have the mentality of 1982.  Football (or soccer as they would call it) would not be in their radar.  In my case in Melbourne is Australian Rules Football, and I don’t blame them. That’s how they grew up in their childhood.

And a bit the same with my peers who are  football fans.  Battered by 30 years of failed world cup qualifications and near misses perhaps we feel that making the world cup finals is enough.  And considering that qualifying is really hard, it is an achievement in itself.

But as the National Team has now captured the nation’s imagination, so there is now a group of young football fans who either have dim memory of, or didn’t experience the heartache of not qualifying for a world cup.  Someone born in 2002, the last world cup without Australia, is now 16.

So for them making the world cup is not enough.  They want more, and I sensed this much more this time than in previous world cups.  This can be seen as a positive development as a sport nation.  The question is, how do we go about it?

The perception from an unlearned

As someone who, while a fan, hasn’t been involved in football, either as a player or in a club, and therefore has little knowledge trying to understand how Australia could become a significant football nation by reading opinions from different sources could be baffling.

For example a prominent person in this area is Tom Byer

But then I read from others that thinks his ideas are nonsense

Then today on twitter someone put a video of an interview made by Mark Viduka

But then the idea of re-introducing ‘traditional’ teams to the top tier would be wrong. Then we talk about the curriculum, academies, the youth league being too short, the A-League teams not developing talent, the fees for children being too high, NPL teams using children fees for themselves not to develop players, children should not be forced to get results, children need to be competitive and learn how to win, children need to play on a full pitch otherwise they won’t develop, children should play in small pitches so they can get skilled on the ball.  Everybody seems to have its own opinion on how Australia could develop and be competitive in a world stage and dismissing the others.

Some say that this has been happening for years.  Some say that the FFA does not have the ‘culture’ of developing players as they are interested in short term objectives.

Who am I to know.

But as someone who wants Australia to do well in football, to have a team that when picked up in a World Cup group is feared, and not as the easybeat team,  I wish that some sort of plan is devised.  Some look at Belgium, being third in the world, if they can do it with 11.5 million people, can Australia do it with 25?

I remember when non football people used to say ‘Australia sucks at soccer’ every time we failed to qualify for a world cup.  Now they say that when we fail to get out of the group stage of the world cup.  Progress? Perhaps.  But it is not enough.

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